*and do always be carving/slaloming to some extent

Ruthern Flamel same thing going on here, i have changed so many things either to do with the wheel or my riding position over the last few months, can't go above 19mph without it starting, i do feel that i am getting better at dealing with it now!?! Pretty certain it's more me than machine in my case, hopefully one day it will be gone, I'm just treating it as part of the euc learning curve. 16x

Don Simpson glad you’re improving every day! The Wind is def a factor in my encounters, I noticed on windy days the wobble happens faster. Everyone is saying that a lot is from the rider, so I’m just playing with my stance and doing lots….AND LOTS of squats/adductor exercises lol

All there is to know about wobbles:

https://electricpeople.org/topic/wobble
https://electricpeople.org/post/is-it-all-about-the-v-6203bc0568a81d64242fd192

The only really dangerous wobbles are braking wobbles ... avoid crippled / hunched stance as long as you are not a "pro" and straighten your legs while leaning backward. When wobbles are no longer an issue, you may safely develop your very own special riding style.

Straightening your legs will also help preventing or calming down speed wobbles while riding straight forward. Heavier people will have less wobbling because they don't have to lean as far as featherweights ... every rose has its thorns :-)

Old Trapper this is great! Thanks! I’ll play with the V foot position more. I know I need to be careful with my knees. If I’m not aware of how they align with my feet they get super achy.

Some good advice here, for me personally. Time on the wheel, muscle memory, subconscious input, makes a hell of a difference. A forward stance on the foot plate with my weight even between toes and heels. I try to accelerate, brake, flat footed if you know what I mean. Carving works because it creates input on one side, or the other, it prevents you oscillating input from one side to the other in quick order. Ankle protection on my shoes, this helps if I bash my foot on the pedal, that really hurts, but it also offers support, I got wobbles more often when my ankles are fatigued on longer rides. Practice makes perfect :-)

:-) ... my personal opinion is: I cannot steer the wheel with my brain and decisions followed by actions. I (with a lot of miles on my record) "simply" trust my body and rely on it. Knowing that I have to go left at the next intersection is enough ... my body does the rest. Seeing my dog dropping his really large stick very close in front of me even at high speed (50+ kph) is sufficient to cause my body to brake and drive around the stick. I am not fast enough to decide to shift my weight back then left, stabilize, shift right again, whereas my body twists the lower part around the stick while slightly leaned back and my feet supporting this by shoving the right foot forward and the left back with perfect timing. Trusting your body makes for feeling like flying the magic carpet.

Of course I have to recognize potholes or oncoming traffic and so on. This is my task, my body has the task to handle the wheel.

Robin Ridge hmm alright. I know I keep a lot of weight on the balls of my feet, so my calvs get tired pretty quickly. If I try and put the weight evenly through my feet I just end up breaking even if I’m not leaning back🤔. I’ll have to try putting both my feet further forward.

Ruthern Flamel Exactly where I was, I was nervous about moving forward on the plate because I thought it may hurt my braking, or that I thought if your feet were supposed to go forward they would have put the footplate more forward. Not the case, moving forward worked a charm :-)

I’m writing just to say, I’m in and out of this problem too still- and the thing that always helps is to relax, slow up a bit and try to even the pressure out across my soles on both feet. For me I know the cause is usually tension in the foot/leg especially my right as it’s the non dominant side. The slightly duck footed stance (as suggested above) is a good one because it engages ones heels more especially if you’re not a heavy rider and that seems to flatten/solidify the stance and spreads your body weight across the pedals for better control.
In my case I know I am my own worst enemy, being too eager, worry, frustration, fear, anxiety the whole horrible lot really do feed into the wheel- got to do the no-mind thing….forget that stuff and be confident!
-no mind, be free- keep smiling…as Old Trapper said, ‘trust your body’ and as Yoda said; ‘use the Force’!
One other suggestion to add to the list is to try different footwear. Personally speaking this really really makes or breaks my ride which perhaps sounds daft, but wearing boots or shoes with thick or chunky soles, ie trainers, my work safety boots i discovered is a no no. Basically they made my heel too elevated so there was too much weight/pressure on the toes. The flatter sole of my own foot and that of the shoe the better….
….then I could work on the meditative state!

Keep on riding and I hope your solution soon